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Тема: hi i am new and i need help
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« Ответ #45 : 17.06.2012 23:13:29 »
why u need all this arts anyway for me two arts: antigravitazer and matter-psi accelerator was critical, also having blast wave localizer was nice too, maybe i dont use arts that much :S

am i right to assume to get this arts i must going to every BH in this 4-5 years? becuse i am not realy good in this category (well except when i have blasters or vertixes :))
Бляха "Космический патруль" за помощь в борьбе с нарушениями на форуме."Орден Почётного Легиона" за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!!!"Орден быка" за почетное третье место в чемпионате "Мультирезонанс"
"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней"Орден Галактического Совета" за тестирование, реализацию новшеств и прочую помощь в разработке аддона "КР HD: Революция".
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« Ответ #46 : 17.06.2012 23:17:48 »
Visiting Keller's BH BEFORE Keller's appear (or better at the same turn when Keller appears) makes the hole common with pirates. I'll describe then how to use the whole art-pack. ;-) BH arcades are primitive -- just fly backwards and shoot. Buy several cheap (A level) weapons, try and conclude which of them are easier to use.
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« Ответ #47 : 17.06.2012 23:24:57 »
one more thing i read in this forum that equiping weapons in the BH affect something sadly it only said that this trick wont work for keller himself
what is this trick? and what's the benefit
Бляха "Космический патруль" за помощь в борьбе с нарушениями на форуме."Орден Почётного Легиона" за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!!!"Орден быка" за почетное третье место в чемпионате "Мультирезонанс"
"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней"Орден Галактического Совета" за тестирование, реализацию новшеств и прочую помощь в разработке аддона "КР HD: Революция".
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« Ответ #48 : 17.06.2012 23:28:31 »
Ah yes I forgot to mention this trick: flying into the BH without weapons equipped makes enemies very weak. Works with Keller too.
Орден Почетного Легиона за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней
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« Ответ #49 : 18.06.2012 01:41:24 »
am i right to assume to get this arts i must going to every BH in this 4-5 years? becuse i am not realy good in this category (well except when i have blasters or vertixes :))
If you want to get all arts as fast as you can then yes, you dont need to kill keller, try to get arts in his BH if you can. If you dont need all arts and want 2-3 critical arts then its simple. I dont remember if we told you about it, but art depends of last killed pirate. So if you have 6 piretes in BH then it might be 6 different arts, you can pick necessary one. As buldoser said, if you entered to BH without weapons in slots, enemyes are weak. Also easy way to check all variants of possible arts are cheats God and Vertix. Try to kill different pirates in the end, if art matches for you then load and try to kill so with normal weapon =) In early years I use rocket launchers in BH or sometimes weapon with blue balls in BH (dont know what is name in english). And you should try to control spawns of medicine bonus. With art "small droid" (or how its called in english) you even dont need that.
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« Ответ #50 : 18.06.2012 05:52:15 »
blue balls: probably u mean earliest fragment weapon (fragment cannon) yes they are very good i also like lezka and ofcource missile is good

i actually do all of this  (running around pick the bonuses flying backward) but my last game that i tried to farm bh the number of enemy increased to 6 (and stay the same for next bh too) their number is too much and i couldnt find who i killed last so eventual i give up they are all alike, there is only 2 type of them
Орден Почетного Легиона за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней
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« Ответ #51 : 18.06.2012 11:46:39 »
lezka
As I know its worse choice in black hole  :wacko:
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« Ответ #52 : 20.06.2012 22:31:14 »
eh i like lezka they dont have homing property but u can fire a lot of them and they eventually hit someone but at the same time it wont let u to kill the one u want (well i really fear getting near any of enemies in BH :P that's why i say i am not good at all in arcade games) and it seems your projectile wont damage yourself

its realy frustrating in the beginning the only things i can do is trading do u guys do something else in first 3 years (before missile become available)?
Орден Почетного Легиона за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней
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« Ответ #53 : 20.06.2012 23:28:08 »
When I played with 200% dominators it was quite boring first 2-3 years, but I tred not only trading. I fought vs dominators, explored planets also. Used artefact for calling kelleroids (in dominator's systems) etc. In other words, gaying around   :crazy:
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« Ответ #54 : 21.06.2012 00:12:30 »
is calling keller army to other systems decrease chance of his attack to coalitions systems? and if u do call keller army how u collect the lot? did u use clocking device?

with what u fight dominators :P LOL except that tiny missile thrower i dunno any real weapon to fight them or do u use close range weapons (witch means u are in direct hit of them :S)
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« Ответ #55 : 21.06.2012 11:34:48 »
well in this run i faced a lot of problems it was full of action:P keller attack me non stop befor i can finish the first wave it send another one
its year 3304 and i only have 1 system no base and still no missile :O (i even forced to use astroids to help me kill dominators lol) so i think i must expand my knowledge sorry for long post

1- what determine frequency of attacks of dominators (specially keller)  i see in some games keller dont attack me that much but in other game it attack me a lot i have 2 theory first there are a lot of keller systems near me second keller dont have enough systems

2- i have seen blazer and terron attack my systems though i only had 5 systems why it happened

3- i still have problem to determine tech grows of planets they are industrial but they dont grow that much is there anyway that i can guess their lvl better in the start of game (for example their visual size or population? )

4- i want to manage my skill allocations better, so i must ask: how damage calculated and how attack and maneuver skills affect them for example i have a missile thrower with 10-14 damage i have no skill in attack, is this means i do an average of 12 damage? (without counting enemy armor) (giving me a web address in russion with the formula - if there is such a thing - would be enough)

5- in what type of planet and with what rate luxury trade item actually produced

6- is there anyway to affect the prohibition of some trade item (like drugs) to become legal?

thanks
Бляха "Космический патруль" за помощь в борьбе с нарушениями на форуме."Орден Почётного Легиона" за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!!!"Орден быка" за почетное третье место в чемпионате "Мультирезонанс"
"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней"Орден Галактического Совета" за тестирование, реализацию новшеств и прочую помощь в разработке аддона "КР HD: Революция".
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« Ответ #56 : 21.06.2012 12:48:41 »
is calling keller army to other systems decrease chance of his attack to coalitions systems? and if u do call keller army how u collect the lot? did u use clocking device?

Absolutly no, Keller acts independently. Yes stealing loot during battle.

with what u fight dominators :P LOL except that tiny missile thrower i dunno any real weapon to fight them or do u use close range weapons (witch means u are in direct hit of them :S)

I'm using only one missle launcher picked on start. With module (and stimulators) it damages up to 23-25 with one rocket, for me it's mostly enough. Sometimes buy several Lezka's.

its year 3304 and i only have 1 system no base and still no missile :O (i even forced to use astroids to help me kill dominators lol) so i think i must expand my knowledge sorry for long post

I'd better suggest to start again. :-)

1- what determine frequency of attacks of dominators (specially keller)  i see in some games keller dont attack me that much but in other game it attack me a lot i have 2 theory first there are a lot of keller systems near me second keller dont have enough systems

Keller's attaks are fully random so he can attack several times in a row and also can disappear for a year.

2- i have seen blazer and terron attack my systems though i only had 5 systems why it happened

Blazer and Terron stop attacks when 3 systems are remaining.

3- i still have problem to determine tech grows of planets they are industrial but they dont grow that much is there anyway that i can guess their lvl better in the start of game (for example their visual size or population? )

Graphically you can see their sizes on a map. Population depends only on the size.

4- Hm I guess I've seen this formula on older forums, perhaps I'll manage to find it.

5- Depends on regime (autocraty, monarchy, democracy, anarchy etc) and random events -- read in-game news. Buy luxury on events -- it will restore very quickly but DON'T sell on event as luxury disappears then.

6- No, though if the regime is anarchy you can. But prices during anarchy stay very uncompetitive.
Орден Почетного Легиона за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней
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« Ответ #57 : 21.06.2012 12:55:51 »
is calling keller army to other systems decrease chance of his attack to coalitions systems?
Never hear about it so I think its not.

if u do call keller army how u collect the lot? did u use clocking device?

I dont collect them, I call them to blazer's or terron's system. After it I go away. I come back a bit later and take remains of fighting.
About clocking device... I dont understand what did you mean

1- what determine frequency of attacks of dominators (specially keller)
 
I dont know, I think its random. When I played last time I had same problem, or he doesnt attack at all, or it happens very often. Thats why I prefer to kill him and dont rape my mind

2- i have seen blazer and terron attack my systems though i only had 5 systems why it happened

They attack systems if its over 3.

3- i still have problem to determine tech grows of planets they are industrial but they dont grow that much

Im not pro in it. Ehhm do you look to new equipment in there? What is their maximal level? And what is galactic level? (shift+ctrl+vertix).
Yes its cabbot grow fast. I think rocket launchers will appear in 06-07 year, although I can make mistake.

4- i want to manage my skill allocations better, so i must ask: how damage calculated and how attack and maneuver skills affect them

For example your weapon has 20-50 demage. After it computer pick damage from that interval (it depends of attack skill of attacker and  maneuver skill of victim). When its defined (for example 40), we look to victim's armor. If its 50%+10 then final damage will be: 40-(40*0,5)-10=10.
As I know, nobody knows how it works exactly if you asking about interval only. With weapon 10-14 and without attack skill I think damage is picked from 10 to 13 (becouse in description of skill its something like "probability to make maximum damage is 0%").
In other situations Im not sure also, I think if attacker has attacking skill = 5 (100% probability to make maximum damage) and victim has maneuver skill 3 (damage decreased up to 60%) then probability of maximum damage is 40%.
As I said exact formula of picking range can be other, nobody sure about it. But at least we know how it works after it. Generator blocks damage in percents minus ship's armor.

5- in what type of planet and with what rate luxury trade item actually produced

As I know at start its random. But if planet havent luxury then cost is increasing, if planet has many luxury then cost is decresing. Use it when you trade. So you can sell many luxury and wait a bit. After it buy that luxury with low cost and sell in other place where luxury is costly (sometimes its planet where you bought all luxury before). But where luxury is produced... I think everywhere. But for trading it havent meaning, you can buy same luxury everytime which you sold some time ago.

6- is there anyway to affect the prohibition of some trade item (like drugs) to become legal?
 
As I know its random. It can become legal, but you cant affect to it. (If I remember correctly)
Орден Почетного Легиона за активное участие в жизни форума свыше 1000 дней!"Звезда Эгемона". Редчайшая награда Галактического Совета. Выдана за выдающиеся заслуги перед Форумом и за форумный стаж свыше 2000 дней
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« Ответ #58 : 21.06.2012 13:00:49 »
i only have 1 system no base
heh Next time try so save at least scientific base. If you cant, try to load old save and replay. Or next time kill keller, you will have 3 systems maybe=)

with what u fight dominators
Rockets. However I know ppl who uses lezka (dont know how but they told me it)
 
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« Ответ #59 : 21.06.2012 14:31:14 »
many thanks

About clocking device... I dont understand what did you mean

i am very stupid i mean cloak (i write clock :|) disguising yourself like a dominator
 
I'm using only one missle launcher picked on start. With module (and  stimulators) it damages up to 23-25 with one rocket, for me it's mostly  enough. Sometimes buy several Lezka'
i thought module only affect the maximum damage or they affect the minimum too?
oh yes i have forgotten that lezka have the best range in the beginning weaponry

I'd better suggest to start again. :-)
hmm i really dont like restarting (if the initial conditions are good) but in this case it seems there is no other choice :P actually i want to get better in first years so i am starting to play the initial years untill i feel i can win the game then i start another game (in the same time i learn to play with low tech equipments :) )

 
  1: so sad that keller attack is completely random, this means even if u have a perfect start this randomness can ruin your game. it seems i need to restart more often :| (currently keller send 2 wave every 2 month)

Thats why I prefer to kill keller and dont rape my mind
sadly i dont have enough skill to do this i am bad in action games (only strategy and rpg :P)

3: so bigger planets that are industrial mean better tech grow (at least in average)

Ehhm do you look to new equipment in there? What is their maximal level? And what is galactic level?

i only look for missile on sell, other weapons can be looted from dominators so i want to minimize the time i need to wait for missiles
and by determine their lvl i mean their tech grows lvl how fast they upgrade their equipment
 
heh Next time try so save at least scientific base

well i made a huge mistake there i tried to save ranger center and i lost scientific one and recklessly refused to reload, well i didnt had that much dominator loot anyway exactly after that i start to collect a lot of dominators stuff :|

Rockets. However I know ppl who uses lezka (dont know how but they told me it)
i should learn to use them probably with managing my speed i can hit them with lezka and their weapon wont reach me (at least this is what i think)

1 more thing about buying bases why i cant buy base when i have only 1 base in my home system   in this example i had only ranger center in kraha and business center in another system but i couldnt buy any of the bases (i had only 2 systems in that time)
(sorry i dont know how to describe it)
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